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[livejournal.com profile] angeltrouble's most recent post has a comment I'm going to pull out of context:....shouting at her best friend, because "that's how we talk!"......

I too have gotten in trouble for 'being mean' and 'yelling' when talking to someone and I apprantly get excited. I don't feel excited. But yes, I do yell and shout at times and I'm not angry or mean. I'm just horribly animated. Usually I get in trouble because the context is a heated discussion or a fake argument over something inane. But sometimes I get shot down for being loud over something happy or positive. I usually get confused and puzzled when the person suddenly acts withdrawn, or even flat-out says, "you don't have to yell." Then I get embarassed. Then I get frustrated, because I didn't do anything wrong. I wasn't intentionally raising my voice to hurt someone's feeling or express anger. That's just how I talk. And sure, I do try and tone it down some for that person in the future. But part of me wishes they would just yell back. Or laugh it off. I mean, if they want me to clarify whether I'm yelling becuase I'm mad or yelling because I'm enthused, that's not as big of a deal. But sometimes I get resentful of being shot down and having to change by behavior.

I was "raised" by loud people. By that, I mean all through middle-school and high-school, my big influence in communication wasn't my mute parents or my shy sarcastic quiet brother. It was my friends and classmates and drama people and teachers and church youth group friends and mock trial teammates. We laughed and talked loudly, and I guess some would call it shouting or yelling, but that seems to have such a specific intention behind it. I think of yelling when I'm calling someone's name from 100 yards away. Or shouting when I want to strangle a person in a car who almost ran me over in the crosswalk. Exclaiming "no, you didn't" or "what the hell are you talking about" doesn't seem like yelling at all.

I still 'yell' today. Not as much, I suppose, since my job doesn't give me much opportunity. But at home, I still yell at music videos. I still crank up the video games and yell at Damon or any other opponent as I beat them down, or get beat down. I still turn up my stereo and yell along with the song. Which is odd considering I have a minor phobia of loud noises. I plug my ears when sirens go down the street, I hate fireworks, I don't like sudden slamming of doors, and cars without mufflers make my skin crawl and eyes water.

But apparantly the sound of my own voice is okay. It's also usually the first thing to go if I'm not feeling as confident. Mumbling is always the first sign that I'm shy or embarassed or intimidated or sometimes just tired.


Last night I overcame my agoraphobia and went for a drink with Margarita Boy. I had a nice time, and I hoped I managed to cheer him up some -- he's hard a rough month. And guess who was at the illustrious bar? MelRo's Deadly Ex. I pointed her out to Margarita Boy...several times...and he finally said, look you need to stop being so obsessed. I reminded him that it wasn't MY ex. He said, yeah, I know.

But then I made him laugh when I told him I just saw her taking hits out of her inhaler between cigarettes. Granted we were practically chain-smoking at the time. But that was part of the hilarity.

Now lunch. Then brief production. Tonight possible grocery store and more Tony Hawk 2.

Loud and Wrong

Date: 2002-01-09 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angeltrouble.livejournal.com
i talk so damn loud. i can't help it. both my parents are extremely animated [loud]plus *all* of my mom's family is like that, and think americans are reserved and nervous. at family get togethers [with my mom's side] like at my nana's recent birthday blowout, i got a sore throat days later from hollering at my brother, sister and various other not deaf but not always paying attention relatives.

Re: Loud and Wrong

Date: 2002-01-09 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raybear.livejournal.com
My childhood best friend's family was like that, and I was envious. But then I just started to join in and hang out with them and enjoy the ride. Most of my close friends now are pretty loud and extremely talkative.

But sometimes I'm still astounded by my last ex who had zero tolerance for shouting, yelling, loud talking, cackling, and even teasing. Talk about feeling castrated all the time by her admonishments. I may be wussy, but I'm not exactly meek and mild.

Re: Loud and Wrong

Date: 2002-01-09 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angeltrouble.livejournal.com
mmmm. i know exactly what you're talking about.

Date: 2002-01-09 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ridleymae.livejournal.com
ray-

i hear you on this! i am the same way. animated? yes, passionate? yes- but not yelling. i gesture, i laugh loud and so on. some ppl can't handle it ;0

loudly,
ridley

Date: 2002-01-09 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hissyfit.livejournal.com
i have a low voice that carries very easily. when i get excited, i get loud. it's awful. i should have been in theatre, but the drama teacher at my highschool didn't like me.

Date: 2002-01-09 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-fish.livejournal.com
You should come hang out at my house. My mother and I just hollered "NEE!" at one another for a good five minutes. I don't know why. We yell and laugh and yell some more and most of it is all in good fun. I grew up with boisterous bragging brawling brothers. Well, atleast in the summers. And I never quite figured out why you would just SAY something when you could yell it and REALLY get your point across. Plus our house has two floors and we're lazy so "MOM! PHONE!" was our training.

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